The literal vs. the truth

This is  a back & forth I had with an individual who believes divine will is based on dictionary definitions:

+Mark Weinstein – As I stated elsewhere: Let us take a fact-filled look at this. The opening book of the Bible tells us: “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” (Genesis 2:24; cf. Matthew 19:4) Those are the first words; no others precede them, of marriage. According to the etymology (origin of words) dictionary the word “marriage” originated around 1300 meaning “action of marrying, entry into wedlock” the “state or condition of being husband and wife, matrimony, wedlock.” The Hebrew word “wife,” according to Vine’s Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words, “connotes one who is a female human being.” The etymology dictionary concurs with that definition. Thus, we have both the creation and the definition of the word marriage; that without therefore would there be a man and a woman union referred to as marriage. Other sacraments or rituals may bring together people and in modern societies such unions may be referred to as a joining contract, lifetime partnership (accord, or couple), state bond, civil union, etc. But marriage is God-given and therefore a religious consideration; one that has been aradition throughout America’s history.
+Jerry Krause I’ve recently been reading the Torah – page by page – it’s not easy reading. There are many times when G-d gives page-long, specific instructions to various people (including Moses) about how to carry out His commands. Sometimes it has to do with how many goats one gives for a wife, other times deal with resolving disputes by apportioning cubits of cloth, etc etc. So as far as “fact-filled” interpretations of the bible go, it’s bunk to cherry-pick parts of scripture for literal interpretation. It would Christian to be less occupied with what the “etymology dictionary concurs with”, and instead use your heart to decipher divine will. Your heart.
+Mark Weinstein  – Can you explain to me what the “heart” has to do with gays wanting to change the long traditional (here is America) and God-given meaning of marriage and forcing it on everyone else; not anything to do with gays having a union of some sort but their corrupted use of the word marriage?
+Jerry Krause The only ‘corruption’ is in your heart. Traditions – including long ones – can be good or bad. No person should be obligated to fashion his or her life to not offend those who hold different beliefs. Charlatans and tyrants have a “long tradition” of interpreting history and scripture to serve their own ends. Entymologically speaking, you are smack dab in the middle of that inhumanity. That is the real truth.
+Mark Weinstein – (FIRST of 2 PART REPLY) The “real truth” you say. Let us get to that in a moment. Your persistence that it is Christians verses LGBT (or gays) is noted; even thought my position has included both secular (thus my reason for mentioning the etymology dictionary, traditional, etc) and religious. With that said, let us also note that 41% of the LGBT community are religiously affiliated; 48% or just about half of those refer to themselves as Christians (cf. Pew Research Study, Religious & Public Life, may 12, 2015). Thus, when someone as you says or implies that Christians are oppressing the LGBT community, they are including lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transsexuals among the oppressors. Now, as for the “real truth” and as Mr. Happy Face said: “You can’t handle the truth!”
+Mark Weinstein – (SECOND of 2 PART REPLY) As I posted elsewhere: The word “marriage” is being used in the most perverted, peculiar and ill-fitting, ways. Recently, in the Netherlands Jennifer Hoes married herself; as did Liu Ye in China and Chen Wei Yih in Taiwan. Elsewhere a British woman married a dolphin named Cindy. Bimbala Das in India married a snake; and Uwn Mitzcherlich in Germany married a cat. As with gays they justified their marriages as being love inspired. In Sudan, Charles Tombe was forced to marry the goat he was caught with in a sexual act. Eija-Riitta Berliner-Mauer in Germany married the Berlin Wall before it was torn down. In Japan, Sal9000 (his name) fell in love with the character he met playing “Love Plus” on his NintendoDS and married her; and in South Korea, Lee Jin-gyu married his bedroom pillow. Davecat, who is reportedly gay and now lives in Michigan, married his blow up doll. Without regard for its origin or true meaning, the word “marriage” is similarly being used by gays. However, marriage has always been a covenant between a man and a woman which is by its nature ordered toward the procreation and education of children and the unity and wellbeing of the spouses. Whether looking for it in oneself, an animal, tangible object, marrying their sibling or the same sex, it will always be for them something make-believe; they will never have what is a marriage between a man and a woman.
+Jerry Krause What is scary – and I mean SCARY – is that there are millions of mean-spirited, stone-throwing people like you who call themselves Christians. In my life I’ve met people who have – is there another way to say it? – the light of Jesus shining through them. They do not live in condemnation or proselytizing their belief onto others. They are easy, wonderful people to be around. They inspire and show love of Jesus, They are not scripture-wavers. They follow their faith by being giving and kind with no litmus test of who is a ‘true-believer.” To quote the Torah – “….and Pharaoh’s heart was hardened…..”. You give out self-righteousness in everything you say. That kind of angry, emotional surety is often a cover of someone who is trying to convince himself. You are not – to my perception – a true-believer in anything. You are a phony – and it doesn’t matter what quotes from dictionaries, scripture, or the Sunday funnies you cite to prove how wrong someone else is. It’s also my perception you know it, and like people who cannot have enough guns to make them feel safe, you cannot outrun the shadow of your emptiness. I am a hypocrite for engaging in this angry, condemning dialogue. I find it difficult to feel kindness toward you. That’s my problem.
+Mark Weinstein – Perhaps you prefer over knowledge instead “assuming” which is almost always accompanied with ignorance and incompatible with intelligence. Where did I say that I am a Christian (not saying that to be or not to be true)? You have assumed a few things about me. To say that because I simply disagree with gays wanting to change the long traditional and God-meaning of marriage and forcing it on everyone else, can be accurately seen as a hypocrite statement. Also, whenever one violates the natural moral order established by God, one sins and offends God. Same-sex “marriage” does just that. Accordingly, anyone who professes to love God must be opposed to it. Lastly, what truly angers you is not me but your troubles. Do not blame me for those, please.
+Jerry Krause Whatever you say – you’re absolutely right. After all, to disagree with you is to offend G-d.
+Mark Weinstein – What the heck is “G-d” as you say?

+Jerry Krause Whatever you say – you’re absolutely right. After all, to disagree with you is to offend G-d.
+Mark Weinstein – What are you looking for?

+Jerry Krause. Whatever you say – you’re absolutely right. After all, to disagree with you is to offend G- d.
+Mark Weinstein – It is thought of as a nervous tic, constantly repeating yourself.  It is somewhat common among children and older adults with a mental disorder. Usually it comes and then fades away in the form of minor stutters; a sign of stress, even frustration.

+Jerry Krause Whatever you say – you’re absolutely right. After all, to disagree with you is to offend G-d.
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